how to get someone into a treatment center?

Question by LindsayLittle: how to get someone into a treatment center?
my fiance has problems relating to depression, anxiety, and now even alcohol abuse. its getting very bad..
none of his family members seem to see how bad his problems are and i have no idea how to help him.
he refuses to go to counseling or to his doctor (he said it didn’t work for him before) nothing i say helps. is there a hotline i can call to discuss this with or anything?? i just don’t know what to do. =[

Best answer:

Answer by piji_caj
Have you tried to say something to the effect of “Look, this is getting bad. I can’t marry someone with these kinds of problems?” I don’t think you can force anyone into treatment, unless they’re suicidal. But maybe if you made it clear how you felt, he would consider getting help.

You can call 1-800-Suicide to talk to someone in your area about how you feel. They might be able to give you some tips on how to deal with your relationship.

You might want to consider therapy yourself. This can’t be easy to deal with.

Take care.

Answer by Cella
Lindsay,

If you mean treatment for alcohol, he will only go in if he is ready. You can try intervention. You can suggest rehab. A lot of rehabs have duel diagnosis. That means for depression and alcohol. The two go together most of the time anyway.

I went into rehab for drugs. Here’s what I learned. There is steps or a cycle that a person goes through. Now keep in mind that the depression and anxiety are because of the alcohol. The steps are: curiosity, addiction, admitting you have a problem, trying to rehab yourself, relapsing, asking for help, going into rehab and sometimes relapsing…

There are many places that can aid you in your search. First off you need to check out your insurance and see what they will cover. Some have a plan and a list of places they recommend. If not the state usually has place he can be put into. There might be a waiting list. So check out the your county or state programs.

Once you get him into a program make sure you have at least a one year plan. That means long term rehab(3-6 months is the best) then his after care. I believe that therapy and support are the best for after rehab. So find a therapist and a support program, like AA or something like that. At AA he would have a sponsor, someone who went through it and is there for him teaching and talking with him anytime he needs it.

While he is in rehab educate yourself, get into a support group yourself. Talk with other people who have gone through this. They can be there for you when things get tough or cheer you on when things go your way.

It is a tough road and I commend you on sticking with him through this. Just remember this can work out, although there may be some let downs. Remember the steps of recovery. They say relapes is part of recovery.

Feel free to email me anytime.

Take care and don’t give up!

Cella

PS. Stay away from a places called NARCONON or NEW LIFEas it is SCIENTOLOGY. They have them all over the world.

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for by insurance and medicare. People who are drug tested positive for illegal drugs are often offered treatment as an option to losing their jobs. in fact drug addiction is listed as a disease, it’s not just a bad habit, . Since nicotine is an addictive drug, users are drug addicts and therefor sick people, so why do we punish them and not offer medical help.I guess it’s because insurance and government do what they want and ignore their irrationality.
i’m not suggestion putting smokers in prison, I’m saying you can be an alcholic or drug addict and go to a treatment center for inpatient treatment usually 28 days and its covered by insurance, but with nicotine which is as hard to stop as herion, you are supposed to stop on your on with no help but a patch. That is discriminatory. It is either a disease or it’s not.
The government wants me to stop smoking so they are taxing cigarettes more and more and forcing my employer to make the work place tobacco free so, yea, they should pay for treatment.

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Answer by Ambushbug0
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Answer by sammyandbetsy
??? My health insurance has stop smoking programs and covers the cost of the patch.

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Answer by J C
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SO HERE IS MY QUESTION. I have an appointment with an addition specialist to see about going on suboxone as a stepping stone to getting off the poppys. But ,I have read online in many forums (drugs dot com for example) that suboxone is addictive and VERY hard to quit. So, this “treatment” might make things worse for me. I am not taking huge amounts of poppy and my life is not at risk from it. I don’t need to do dangerous injection or buy my drugs on the street. It is also not very expensive. So is suboxone a good idea for me? Or should I give all of my drugs to my husband. Have him buy a SAFE (this time) and go for the taper again.. this time extra slow … I even have a digital scale to make it precise…

I can’t make up my mind.

I also worry about stressing out my husband. It’s not his fault that I got in to this so why should he have to clean up for me? That’s one reason I Iike the idea of going to a doctor and suboxone. He is very supportive of whatever I want but I want to respect him and not be like those drug addicts I have read about who hurt their loved one. So, what should I do?

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Answer by Mer
Well suboxone can be addictive mostly if you inject(as I too have read online), and it prevents withdrawal syndromes. However suboxone itself only gets you “high” if you don’t have a tolerance(and you do from the poppies) so it wouldn’t give you the same high but you wouldn’t feel the withdrawal symptoms as hard. I’ve taken suboxone but have no dependence as an experiment and it’s pretty strong(2mg), so you probably will be prescribed a dosage a bit bigger. But nothing compared to the grams of poppies you ingest, so this medication will do less harm on your insides seeing as that you will most like get a 5-10mg prescription.

My older sister was prescribed it after rehab for Oxycontin and it helped her, but eventually she did relapse on Oxycontin. But she didn’t have much support, so if your husband is really supportive I’d so go for it 🙂
And eventually they ween you off the suboxone.

Best of luck.
p.s. if you do try to taper down what if you relapse? or worse move onto harder drugs like oxycontin?

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